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RISKS-LIST: Risks-Forum Digest Thursday 12 September 2007 Volume 24 : Issue 82 ACM FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS (comp.risks) Peter G. Neumann, moderator, chmn ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy ***** See last item for further information, disclaimers, caveats, etc. ***** This issue is archived at <http://www.risks.org> as <http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/24.82.html> The current issue can be found at <http://www.csl.sri.com/users/risko/risks.txt> Contents: Amtrak ticketing system outage (Steven M. Bellovin) New Zealand: Telecom's NGN will make old phones obsolete (Henry Baker) German rubbish piles up due to due to toll-system problems (Peter B. Ladkin) Aircraft safety and software reliability (Phil Colbourn) Risks of a flying society (Nick Brown) Groklaw reports 'The Incredible "Lawyers as Hackers" Case' (Kelly Bert Manning) EZ-pass evidence and the law (PGN) On-line property assessment databases a bit too accessible (Jonathan Kamens) Police mail sensitive information to the press (Debora Weber-Wulff) iTunes sharing (Henry Baker) Security: an example from Pakistan (Dan Jacobson) Monster data capture also includes "USAJobs" (Jeremy Epstein) Redacted account numbers (Tom Watson) Re: Save your transaction numbers! (Diomidis Spinellis) Re: Chinese Village Name Change Sparks Chaos (Julian Bradfield) Abridged info on RISKS (comp.risks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [...] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:26:29 +0300 From: Diomidis Spinellis <dds@aueb.gr> Subject: Re: Save your transaction numbers! (Koenig, RISKS-24.80) Andrew Koenig's story of a bank transaction he couldn't prove it occurred illustrates the need for keeping logs (including voting records) in a human-accessible format. I always print the transaction's final screen when I perform an electronic payment. I never analyzed why I needed to do that, it just seemed right to me. Banks, which have lot of experience in keeping track of money, keep a paper trail for all their transactions: they have me sign paper slips in duplicate at the teller, and even the ATM has a second printer in its housing logging all transactions on a paper roll. Reports regarding the demise of paper are greatly exaggerated. Diomidis Spinellis - http://www.spinellis.gr ------------------------------ [...] ------------------------------ End of RISKS-FORUM Digest 24.82 ************************